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Part 2 Discipline Over Talent: A Strategy for Success

Joshua Fields & Jeremy Rubin Episode 39

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Can discipline really outshine talent and skill when it comes to success? Join us in our latest podcast episode, where our guest, Joshua, and Jeremy, tackle this provocative question. Through an enriching conversation, we explore the profound impact of discipline and the pivotal role a clear purpose plays in fostering it. Drawing anecdotes from those who've blazed the trail before us, we unwrap how high standards and personal growth are linked, setting a persuasive argument for a life driven by purpose and discipline.

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Co-Host: Joshua Fields ACC, CPC, & Master ELI Practitioner
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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the take it all podcast, where we see love grow. I am your co-host, jeremy Rubin, and I'm here with my guy once again, joshua A Fills. Joshua, how are you doing today? Hey man, I'm doing well man, that's good.

Speaker 2:

How are you?

Speaker 1:

Man, I'm a little under the weather, but I'm okay.

Speaker 2:

Because I love your smile.

Speaker 1:

I don't have the energy to fight you this morning. I'm just going to wait for you to be done. I have no energy.

Speaker 2:

Well, you have a beautiful smile, man.

Speaker 1:

I can't with you.

Speaker 2:

We're on episode 39 and it's part two of Denise was like one of the chooses, like that Very pretty, but not overly in your face, not overly marketed to you, but she was just like she's just she's just, she's just really really pretty. Just like solid, like this, that's pretty. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't overly glamorized, it was just like just pure prettiness.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I think they were trying to market the one you bring home to mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like the pretty homegirl. Yeah, something for everyone, something for everyone. I'm just like the equivalent of I don't know. Here we go.

Speaker 1:

Kid in play.

Speaker 2:

They were like the, like the. You know they're talented. Obviously you could rap, but they weren't like gangster rappers. You know I'm saying stuff that was getting all the marketing money and all the dollars, all the stuff that us humans and Americans are fascinated with.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah, they were like sex and not even on the edge, they were just safe. Yeah, it was like us in high school. Yeah, it was like you. Obviously, you were one step behind kid in play.

Speaker 1:

So yes we got episodes about this. Yes, no, kid in play wasn't me, because my mom, I literally was not allowed to go to parties. Bro, I went to like maybe two parties and my mom knew the parents, she knew that. That's why it was while, and now, when I got out of, got to college, wasn't picking up her phone calls oh, are you while? And now, because you didn't have. You didn't have a discipline. Not because I didn't have discipline, it's because I find that episode, part two, right freedom.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're talking about discipline, part two, that discipline is greater than talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2:

I just wanted to land you because you're getting ready to go on some tangent about not going to parties. Are you going to parties?

Speaker 1:

You started one now, I tried to start the episode and you were anyway my name is Joshua Fields, executive leadership coach to Jeremy and the stars.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but again another time to be with my guy and going over some some spillover content from last week. So I'm looking forward to a double click and a bit deeper this week, sir.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, again, we will be leaning on a framework from the article out of your red dot com called white discipline is more important than talent, skills or credentials and all that chasing all these receipts, all the receipts, you get discipline. Yeah, why don't you lead us into point two? I mean, we left off with point one, which is have a mission. So like, what is your mission Like if you're going to be disciplined?

Speaker 2:

what are you going to be disciplined? This is I know, this is I know your church kid. You go ahead and lead us in a word.

Speaker 1:

Lead us in a word of prayer. You know what? No, that's you being triggered because you, sir, were at church four days a week.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I can see you usher, oh man when are you, I wasn't usher, junior usher board. Oh yeah, I wasn't a main usher. I stopped going to church by the time I got that age.

Speaker 1:

but I was a junior usher. Yeah, when it was time to choose between the father and the world, obviously no, I got saved at 18.

Speaker 2:

Really, yeah, I was 18 when I got saved. What?

Speaker 1:

was you doing in church that whole time?

Speaker 2:

Resist. You know what I'm doing now Resist.

Speaker 1:

Were you baptized man? I did all of it Baptized at 18 or did you be baptized earlier and you were, like I, grew up in the church?

Speaker 2:

you got in Christ Speaking in tongues and being able to receive the fullness, all of it, speaking in tongues. Baptized, saved at 18, threw all my music away, all my secular music away. I was telling you about that. I was trying to build a disciplined lifestyle around. I mean ironic, I didn't plan this. This is coming up, but I was trying to adhere to the rules that I saw right no drinking, no alcohol, no sex, no, none of that. Right, all the outward facing stuff that was I had a lock on. I wasn't doing that and in some ways I would judge other young Christians that weren't able to do oh, absolutely what I was doing, because I was set apart.

Speaker 1:

You're like you know, you just look like you just look like you were out last night. Okay, the way you came in here looks like you had a bit of a journey last night, but we're here for you. Okay, the altar is right. I expect to see you at that altar. Absolutely, I can't. I can't, bro.

Speaker 2:

Well, man, let's jump into it.

Speaker 1:

I know we're kind of, we're even back and forth, but I know a lot of us are going to take, take it to take shape here.

Speaker 2:

So part of today's conversation is acknowledging this idea that just getting by is not good enough. It calls us to squash any idea of just getting by. When you hear that, what is that just getting by? What is that?

Speaker 1:

when you sometimes and we have other phrases for this, yeah, oh man, I'm just doing me, I'm just doing me, man, I'm staying out the way, staying out the way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are things? Are they good, you know?

Speaker 1:

another day, another day, another day, yeah, or they'll deflect.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm just trying to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, when I hear that, you know, I think you know what's interesting is if you're not careful as you get older, bro, you just get into a routine that you didn't even really design for yourself.

Speaker 2:

You just in a routine.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. You know what I'm saying. And it's not even a routine that serves you or a routine that moves you towards what you want. It's really a routine around like necessity and survival and complacency. And I just realized, like, as I've gotten older, sometimes you can remove some adventure from your life because, like, have I seen it all? Am I too old to chase that feeling anymore? I mean, I remember we'd get up and be like, all right man, we just being Seattle, we're just going to drive to Portland on a humbug and just do stuff, to have great memories and have fun and live life. And then, man, you get into this career, you get into this. It'd be one thing if because we're talking about discipline it'd be one thing if your routine was a discipline routine around what you wanted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it, but it's not for most people. For most people it is a routine around just where you at. You know what I mean. I work here, so that means I need to live around here. I have kids, so that means I need to be kind of in this school district. Like your life becomes connected to your responsibilities versus your daily activities being connected to where you actually want to go for the future. Like that gets lost. So that's kind of what comes up for me and I'm guilty of that, just like anybody else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and underneath that is all of this is a result of people waiting for life to like take them on an adventure or a journey without doing the intentional, conscious work Absolutely. To be clear on why you're doing what you're doing, right If you do. That's my existence. I live in a neighborhood it's kind of closer to these activities. It's kind of wife's jobs over there. I kind of work over here.

Speaker 2:

But all of this is intentional and sometimes that intentional day-to-day discipline is what bores us. It's often repeating itself over and over and over again. That's why and this point is made in this book called the Settle Art of Not Giving a Fuck you have to figure out what you want to give a fuck about. You can't give a fuck about everything. Or you'd be all over the place, or you'd be all over the place and then you'll find yourself stuck because you don't know what to do. You don't know. You think decisions are being made for you, or you haven't found what you're, not even what your passion is, what you care about enough to find some value and worth that you don't mind giving that time to, because the majority of this is it's not the roller coaster ride, it's the waiting in line for the ride. There is no destination and no one is coming to save you part of what this article makes.

Speaker 2:

I love the sense that if you're sitting around waiting for someone to save you or some stroke of blind luck, you're wasting your time. That only happens on TV, which is another compelling reason to minimize and discipline your time over what you're consuming. So you spend more time awake and conscious about what mountains, what rut, what things in your life that you want to shape and shift and move out your way. So you get out and that's ultimately where you build your discipline from. I remember this, my journey losing my 80 pounds.

Speaker 2:

Well, I could sit up and watch TV. I could do it, and I'm not knocking anybody that is in this phase Right. So, yes, as you become more conscious of what you want, putting in the work to make some disciplined choices around, moving yourself out of that rut is what gives you the supreme dopamine hits, a level of self worth, self esteem, self confidence. You build you by disciplining your time to build you. Whether that's losing weight, trying to learn a language, building a business, having time for podcasts with your guy, all of this is going to require discipline, time that has to show up in a repeated sequence and pattern to make some some real change. So, anyway, I love this, this note here to push us to lean into our lives rather than just accept it as a victim and do nothing.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. And I think that a lot of people get into a space where they really believe that that stroke of luck is just coming, like I don't know where that comes from, oh man, I'm gonna be a millionaire one day. Like I'm gonna hit the lotto, like almost, and it's a real thing. Like you don't have any mechanisms for you to do it, but someone's going to discover you were finding. Well, you're not easy to find. Like you know, you're not easy to find at all. You got to get easier to find, and this is something, again, I think, that we all deal with.

Speaker 1:

The next point is man, this one's hidden develop, the ability. Now, this is, they said, this is an ability, develop the ability to avoid distractions. Okay, and, and it's nothing, it's. It's so crazy. The moment that you want to move towards what you want, the whole world's on fire and a lot, in a lot of cases, if you're not disciplined, you'll put out those fires, and it's a great thing to put out a fire, right, but it's not moving towards you, towards what you want. And that's one of the things I have to watch out for myself, as somebody who, in moving to a lot of level four energy and moving to a lot of service without boundaries. I will use that service to give me that lower level hit so that I don't have to do what I need to do for me, like I'd be like, okay, these are the two things I'm doing for myself today, but you know, I'm I'm. You know I ain't cooked for the kids in a while. Let me, let me do that. Let me let me put together a four course meal, or yeah, they'll like that. Or, you know, and you just find things to do for other people Because on some level, you just don't want to do what you're supposed to do. So you'd have to develop the ability to avoid distractions.

Speaker 1:

The article says if you're going to get anywhere in life, you're going to have to avoid distractions. That are all around us all the time. There are even creative distractions, so these come in different shapes and sizes and we talk about this. Are you being busy or are you being effective? Right Cause I might be helping out a friend, or I might be like, hey, you know, let's ideate around this and it feels really good, but what were you supposed to do for you today? You know, did you accomplish that? And if you haven't that opportunity to move from where you are to where you should, where you could be in, your confidence is missed, and if you miss that daily, then that brings about man. Am I an imposter? And it is this for me. And you start to question yourself, because what you say is important and your time doesn't align.

Speaker 2:

And I don't mind as a devil's workshop.

Speaker 1:

Out here doing what?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I look at this with my little dude, tyson. Actually, scholar might be more of the appropriate example. I'll go with Tyson. So Tyson started playing basketball when he was like really young.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like three or four, and you know, it was just for fun, just for fun. We got to a particular season and he was playing to get some kids that were skilled. He was like maybe five, five or six and I was like wait a minute, what are these kids? Are they playing basketball like at home? They only play basketball once a week here.

Speaker 1:

Why are they crossing by some over?

Speaker 2:

Why is Tyson getting crossed up? And I was like, wow, now again, depending on what you want, you know, it comes down to how much time you're willing to put in. And I'm traveling and I'm like damn man, I don't want my son not to be skilled at who.

Speaker 1:

Because he's a representation of you. He's a representation of the family, maybe out there making the feels family look bad.

Speaker 2:

So we found a couple hours. A buddy of mine who's now his coach. We found a couple hours during the week to put in some additional time, and sometimes I go from hour to 90 minutes and I'd be watching them.

Speaker 1:

Is this Tyler?

Speaker 2:

This is Tyler. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tyler the creator. Tyler the creator. Yeah, but what I noticed is, when he started again so the next season starts he'd already put in a bunch of time going to camps, just making time for him to get better.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes that's like, that's just like an easy concept oh, if you want to get better at something, you got to put the time in, but that time has to enter your schedule. Yes, right, there has to be real time. Everything has to be said no to and something is same being said yes to. And so that is the ongoing challenge with how we prioritize things. Jeremy, it's not that she didn't want to get back to you. You're a competing priority.

Speaker 2:

So, as you find these competing priorities, you have to, like, put that in check, like, put that in balance with the rest of what you got going on with your ecosystem. And you said this point is all your efforts in time disciplined to an outcome, or to a result, or to an experience that you want to be able to live as a lifestyle. And so, tyson, back to my son, watching him connect the dots between how he put the time in to carve out space for him to get better at something and showed up in the games, and he was so proud of himself that, wow, I'm doing way better in just being able to shoot and dribble, because the time was made for this, it didn't just happen by accident. So, developing that routine that moves you in the direction of your goals, it is so critical that you understand what your goals are and what routine gets you the goal that you're looking for, which is point number four. And they use the idiom that a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And some of us are so in our head that we got there and there's a ton of coaches that out there even use myself as an example. They got programs, got stuff all lined out. They're ready to go and they're still afraid to move towards what it is that they have this goal for these outcomes, because oftentimes fear gets in the way of developing this great routine. Yet we can't stick to it because competing priorities, we're not sure on what our goal are and the goals that we have in our head we don't even believe we can achieve, which is why we've doubled down so hard on the team but we don't actually start moving towards it, like activating the discipline behavior that moves you forward so you can take your first step.

Speaker 2:

I see this all the time. We got all kinds of plans in my coaching program. This is your plan, this is what you want to work on and then but when it ultimately comes down to it, the adherence how does that plan show up in your life? What adjustments or things are you willing to move out the way so that you continue to move forward and make progress? And oftentimes you need help. You need people that are aligned, that can help remind you of what you are, what you say. Your goals are to keep you on track, because there's a lot more synergistic outcomes that happen when we do things in community. But anyway, just a quick point on that. Did you have anything to chime in with?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think the other thing about creating this basic routine is I think a lot of people sabotage themselves when they have the recipe. Because what happens if I start and I actually give it my all and then I don't get what I want? What happens if I actually move towards it and I feel like I'm not cut out for it or it doesn't land the way that I want to land? So I've seen people with plans that are lined out and it's just like that fear of even if, okay, now that I know what I need to do, if I do it and I still don't get it, there's going to be the disappointment. So if I don't do it and I just kind of sit back or half-ass do it, then I could at least say I didn't give it my all. As crazy as that sounds, I've seen that so many different times where it's like you're just sabotaging yourself. I would say some of the times where I felt the best in my life and it hasn't mattered the age or the level of responsibility that I've had in my life is when I have developed and executed a routine around me and what was important for me. It made me a better father, it made me a better partner. It made me better at working in my business when my routine was around feeding me first, which again sounds like something that makes sense, like put your mask on first and then worry about everyone else. But when I've had that and been disciplined to that, I've had all kinds of energy for other people because I'm fed. So, yeah, I mean I have a whole exercise around how to develop this, but executing it is a whole other thing. Yeah, no-transcript.

Speaker 1:

Moving on to point five, I think that's here we go to a more disciplined condition yourself to be busy. This is so big Like we talk about this all the time. You're feeling low. Get busy, right, you want to move towards something? Get busy, like, actually do it. The article says you have a good idea. Here's a revelation. Good ideas are a dime a dozen. The only ideas that are work, that have worth, are the ones that are accompanied by action. It's a daily struggle. Nobody wants to hear that it's real, though you don't. You want to hear that you're going to have an idea and that the right person is going to hear it, and they're going to open up a door and they've got a team of people waiting to work on your idea and you're going to get 90% of the cut, you know, and you're going to retire off for one idea. Like it's crazy at how we believe that life is going to work out when we have a good idea. Like we can have this idea or concept and do the least but get the most.

Speaker 1:

And that's just not how it works. Nope, Not even close, you know. So it's conditioning yourself to be busy. You know he talks about being a writer and part of his conditioning. And when we talk about conditioning yourself, like when you're running every day, when you're learning to put better foods in your body right, this is a conditioning, right. He talked about carving out time during every day to actually write so that he can get better at it, so that even through the frustration, even through the brain fog, do all of it. He is conditioning himself to have this as a part of his schedule and there is no like pretty way to do this, right? It's like when you want to lose the weight, you just had to get on the treadmill. Like it was not. It's like it's as easy and as hard as that. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like you just have to get on the treadmill and you have to move your mind to something that one of something that helped, because this again, conditioning yourself to get busy, get busy with what. I'm not talking about getting busy with other people's problems and being available to be the counselor. Everybody just comes to me oh good, great, I didn't want to work on me anyway. How can I help you? Exactly, that's so me, and that happens, but that happens with more than you think. Even there's a supervisor right now that won't do their job as a supervisor. They rather micromanage their employees because they feel more comfortable exerting their power, but they see it as all. I'm growing and developing my team. They're not ready yet. I have to double down on, oh God, just everybody. And then when they go out, everything goes awry. So now they can't take vacation because they built a system so dependent upon them as being the primary supplement that nobody can get work done.

Speaker 2:

And this happens in our, in our own day, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like me, love me. You can't do it without me. So you can't replace me Absolutely. And that is not leadership, right? No, it actually really becomes a beginning of a really toxic cycle because, like you said, it's like one you, this is you. What do you mean? You want to get rid of me? You can't get rid of me. I will know you're doing the job that you did really well and what's happening and that's why you're promoted. But what's happening is you need a different set of skills, because you got to motivate people, inspire people, move people to a system of discipline so that they do the job, even when this is so good, this is so good.

Speaker 2:

You know what, and our leaders and this is coming up for me because I'm about to work with this this company on a larger scale, around this very topic, right, which is leadership is not being held accountable to grow and develop their people or being held accountable to outcomes that please Wall Street, that please the stakeholders, right. So I don't care how you get there, this is from an emotional, emotionless, business standpoint. Right, very minimum line thinking, the bottom line thinking, which is very level three, just bottom line. What am I going to? What's, what's the win here? You all can win, growing development teams, cool. But when it's all said and done, I need the number to be what. The number is, right.

Speaker 2:

So we then chase that we employ some level two energy. We exert all this toxic, like catabolic, destructive energy that breaks us down and and crushes us in the process of trying to get to an outcome. Our role here, even with the words that we speak on this podcast, is how do we get above, right, how do we get above the fire so we can see the full landscape of the very thing that has us blinded by this short term thinking, which is going to have these long term impacts? So, no matter if you're the leader you're you're, you're the mom, you're the husband, you're the good friend, whatever relationship you find yourself in. What about that relationship Are you getting out of it that causes you to be disciplined around the areas that you need to be busy with for you, that grow you, not you spending time growing everybody else, so you don't have to focus on you. Right, I serve my kids, but, mom, and please mothers listen, come for me.

Speaker 2:

Don't cancel me, don't cancel me Castles ass.

Speaker 2:

Please don't cancel me. I don't want to be cancer, oh. But please find the time with your firm boundaries. Trust me, your kids will be fine. The husband or that gentleman that you're entertaining that's a part of your family ecosystem Will be fine. But do not continue to look for the victim by not giving yourself time to be Fed, to be nurtured, to be cared on for you. No one's coming to save you. If that looks like I'm unavailable from this time to this time.

Speaker 2:

Start with something small, but you have to fight for your time back.

Speaker 2:

You're not just 100% submitted to a Selfless outcome because you got a micromanage, everything in the house, because if it doesn't look the way you want, then it's not functional and it doesn't work.

Speaker 2:

Too much of that white and up like they tight grip to that type of thinking will cause that to be the obstacle in your way From you being able to feel like you got time to be fed and and and brought back to life. What's your rest and recovery routine? Some of that might what you need to get busy with. I need a rest and recovery routine that allows me to still be able to be present for my family, for for my job, but if I'm so busy with everybody else's stuff that I don't have a discipline regimen around conditioning my own business, which includes rest and recovery, I'm gonna I'm gonna fall out. I'm gonna I'm not gonna be able to make it. I'm gonna be completely crushed by this system and and the other people's routines that I have no, no time for myself To, to give me what I need to be able to be in service to others as well as to myself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and your identity ends up being wrapped up in the everyone else's outcomes. Yeah, like literally that's your identity. But just so you know, these people are gonna move on Like your kids, are gonna have their own lives. Yep, all relationships don't last. You can be at a job today, no, but no relationship lasts. No relationship laughs.

Speaker 2:

They're all designed to come to an end, whether that's what death, or you break up, or but some type of Separation is coming. It's inevitable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how you, how you, how you live with what's inevitable is really the is really the lesson here. Right, it's all temporary, all of it, all of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

This podcast is temporary. We want you to hundred episodes. It's temporary. That day, that day is gonna come and go. Right and then what?

Speaker 1:

and then what? Someone else takes your place, absolutely, and I was. I was talking to some guys at our. We had a sale, huge sale, off-site sale, and I say you know, here's driving any cars to the move cars to the sale.

Speaker 1:

You know, you know, you know I was working double time. Okay, then we found out we left a couple cars there. They've been there for a week. Thank God they didn't get towed.

Speaker 1:

But one of the things that I said I was like guys, we're sitting back in, you know, we're just talking and Having a good time. And I said this is the thing that matters, because guess what, in 150 years, how many people are on this earth? I'm like let's just call it 8 billion, let's round up and and 150 years. None of the 8 billion people that are here are gonna be here in 150 years. Like they're literally all gonna be gone is like this big moment, what like?

Speaker 1:

So what matters and what matters is is how do you feel better more of the time about what you're doing? Like if you're not enjoying life at all and you're on autopilot. This is a time to to think about that, like how do I move to more to what I want to experience? Because if I don't, it really is just on me, it's not on anybody else. You're an adult, right, and what's crazy about this? And a lot of times we're enabling Some real behavior yeah, like whether we're talking about leadership or we're like we're talking about somebody like me who's a real hover dad, because I know for a fact, like when my kids are with me, it's like dad, you know what are we gonna? I know they're capable of cooking, they all are right but it's the thing they're like oh, dad, well, dad, this is what you do, and it's like well, sometimes dad doesn't feel like it, sometimes dad got some stuff going on and I've even been better about that boundary like guys, there is a house full of food. Like what do you guys want to do? I know you can do it, because I'm not preparing you. You know, when you leave here, if you don't know how to take care of yourself which I know you do so I'm gonna stop enabling this. I might cook twice a week instead of, you know, five nights a week now, because there's some stuff I need to be doing for me, and so, like you said, that time's not gonna come out of nowhere. What are you gonna replace it with? Right, and you know, and I think that this thing about get conditioning yourself to get busy Conditioning is a such a great word Because it's not something that comes natural Sitting down and doing something for you, first of all, like you said, when you continue to do it, it gets boring.

Speaker 1:

Right, the discipline of just continuing to show up, you're done with it, and a lot of times it takes like especially as you get older the markers that show. Like Tyson, he was practicing and he practiced for a season. He gave more time for a season than he got to show it Right and then. But sometimes for us the actual showing of our work Is longer than maybe we'd like to see, so we don't work hard enough or we're not disciplined enough To see the outcome happen and then we got to start right back over. We see this with weight, we see this with people in their dreams, we see this with a lot of things. So conditioning yourself to get busy is such a big thing. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a, it's a timely point.

Speaker 2:

I think that that Is a common theme through all of our, through all our episodes. It's it's community, it's finding time to prioritize what you deem important. And you are important, you matter. No one is going to give you that, no one's going to say you're so important. Here's time for you to be important. That may happen, but again, that's for the TVs, that's for the, that's for the ideal workplace. Right, you're going to have to become a bit more aggressive For you To carve out time to be busy, to be disciplined around the things you say you want, around the things you say you want, and not be easily distracted by oh, it's taken too long. Right, it can take up to nearly a year. It was 282 days, right. Right For a habit to really take hold, and we all don't form habits at the same rate.

Speaker 1:

Nope.

Speaker 2:

So even more reason to not give up on you Right to stay disciplined, finding your discipline. That's a journey, right? So anyway, again, a really, really timely episode. I think you can always hear about how to discipline and focus and carve out time to be engaged in a process that's trying to change you around the things that you want to see changing right. Connecting that what do I want? How do I discipline my time free of my schedule, to go after that and do it when I'm facing a low moment.

Speaker 2:

I'm feeling like and this is the thing is also, don't give up on yourself when you have your low moments. It's not if you fall, it's when you fall. Yeah, because the only thing that damages you in a fall is where you hit, it's where you land. The fall isn't destructive in and of itself, but if I don't have systems, people in my life, to catch me when I'm falling, to go to when I need a low moment, I'm going to find myself continuously being damaged and beat up by life in a way that is so detrimental that I'll always see things with this very judgmental, assumptive, interpretive, limiting belief lens. That really stifles my progress and stops me from being able to act and move and I'll remain stuck.

Speaker 2:

Yep, right, so disciplining your time around people, prioritizing what you want and really prioritizing you. An article does a good job of laying out how to make this important and what you can see in your own life to create some action. But, jeremy Rubin man, why don't you tell the people how to support us? Man, you always have the great foreign voice that our love.

Speaker 1:

I hate you so much. Do you not have that voice Again? It's consistent.

Speaker 2:

This is where we're consistent.

Speaker 1:

You can continue to support us by downloading and listening. Oh, you just got to move. Ok, you did by sharing. Sharing Just going to move us. I'm going to move us right along, father, by sharing our content, joining us on social media, but also telling us what you want to hear. I mean, that's a big thing, for us is to give the people what they want. So we're excited to keep showing up and I love spending this time with you and I love doing this part of life with you, brother, hey, man one day we won't be able to, so we got to find a time to do it right now, and now I'm on that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe some of our birthdays are coming up.

Speaker 1:

Bro, why are you giving us a funeral Like did you legit everything, Everything?

Speaker 2:

It's real.

Speaker 1:

They had a great podcast.

Speaker 2:

They had a great one. It did its. Thing.

Speaker 1:

Man it hit sometimes it's just really oh man, I'm done having funerals with you.

Speaker 2:

On a perfect day. I know that I can count on you. Oh, that's how we know it's time to Come on, come on, come on with it, give me a little bit, Come on, partner.

Speaker 1:

Bro, I already told you I want to see R&B with you. When that's not possible, tell me, can you ever the song? Don't do it so.

Speaker 2:

Don't Stand by me. Yeah, yeah, through the good times and the bad times there are always. Oh yeah, we're definitely going to soon. I'll always be right there. Come on Sunny days, everybody loves them. But tell me, baby, can you stand? Ok, this is not a music podcast.

Speaker 1:

We're good out of here. We love y'all. That's it. Can you stand the rain? Can you stand the?

Speaker 2:

rain, wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

All right, man, I love you, my guy. All right, I love you too, I love you too.

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